Thursday, March 29, 2012

Disney on a Dime (Part 1)


My family, and my husband's family alike, are pretty big Disney lovers. Our childhoods were sprinkled with a healthy dose of Disney animated classics and visits to Disney World. Now, with a family of our own, my husband and I absolutely love watching our kids faces light up when we tell them we're going to Disney World! Nothing beats the fuzzy feeling you get while watching your little boy rub noses with Piglet or your daughter gasp in amazement at Cinderella's castle. We've done it plenty of times over the years, and I've been asked on numerous occasions how we've done it on a budget. So here it is, everything I can think to write about saving money on a Disney vacation!



Budgeting
We live on a $30,000/year salary. We don't have much by way of savings or vacation funds. Because of that, many times our trips are fairly spontaneous and thrown together based on deals that come up, ticket prices, gifts, and many random ways that God provides. We also have been blessed by an amazing family that has helped us out in different ways over the years. We also have family in strategic areas (Florida, NJ), so many times our trips are based around these areas to incorporate free housing! I just read somewhere that there is a growing trend in today's economy, to tack on vacation days to business trips, making them dual purpose. We do that at times too. If my husband has a conference to attend, we will save on gas by tagging along and spend an extra day as a family doing something fun.
Our budget for vacations has always been summed up in a phrase: 
"As cheap as possible" 
There have been a few times we've set money aside that was received as a gift, etc. Other times we will come up with money by selling things on craigslist and ebay. I sold a gold necklace from an old boy friend one time, we've also sold guitars, baby items, furniture, books, toys, etc. We also cash in credit and debit card reward points for gift cards that can be used on the trip.

When to Go
When determining the best time to visit Disney World, we usually always shoot for the off season - when crowds and costs are both lower. Start by checking a crowd calender like this one: yourfirstvisit.net If staying at a Disney Resort, they will tell you right on the resort page when their "value season" is: all-star-movies-resort/rates-rooms We have historically gone somewhere between mid February to mid March. Of course the weather is always iffy that time of year. It usually averages in the low 70's, which is still an upgrade from snowy Michigan that time of year!


Preparing the Kids
This has nothing to do with budgeting, but it will help ensure the investment you are making in your trip provides a positive return! 
While planing for this last trip we took to Florida, we had some strong reservations about taking our youngest daughter, then 14 months. She was just reaching the age where she was getting into everything, very active, very strong willed and independent. Because she was still so young, we had not had to be incredibly firm with her yet for any reason, and very rarely had to discipline her. The thought of attempting to sit by the pool and keep track of the 3 and 5 year olds while the 14 month old darted out in every direction did not seem appealing.

Because of this, we decided to put her through baby boot camp. We started really cracking down on her attitude - when she would fuss or start throwing a fit, we would be extra quick to discourage it. We also made her sit for longer times in her seat at the table and practiced sitting still with her on our laps for longer periods of time. The attention to detail paid off and she was great on the trip! Preparing for a trip is a great time to buckle down in the areas you may be slacking off as a parent. Kids notoriously get crabby and uncooperative on vacations because they without fail get the message that the world now revolves around them! Vacations are fun, and we usually do a lot of things that are centered around the kids, so of course they're going to start acting a little spoiled. We try to keep that in mind and start being extra cautious of it a couple months before leaving. Tighten up on things that have been slipping through the cracks and attitudes or behaviors that should not be acceptable. This is assuming you are already practicing good parenting skills and that your kids are somewhat well behaved and respect you enough to listen. If you struggle excessively at home with your kids, then it may not be time to reward their behavior with a trip to Disney World. On the other hand, for many people, a parenting tune up before a trip can help ensure the trip is enjoyable for everyone!


Getting There
You basically have 2 options - driving and flying. We've done both and both have their pros and cons. From Michigan, the drive is about 19 hours without stops. AAA's Fuel Cost Calculator currently estimates this round trip to cost us $515.58 in our mini van. If you're going to drive, calculate the cost of fuel, one night at a hotel (unless you want to drive straight through - which we've done and vowed we'd never do it again!), the cost of meals while on the road and gas while you're down there touring around. Once you have a good handle on the cost of driving, you can weigh it out against the option of flying. Ticket prices seem to be higher right now,  but there have been years we've scored $9 flights on spiritair.com which made flying a no brainer. If you fly, you have to factor in the price of car rental while there, unless you have relatives in the area or are staying at a Disney resort which provides free shuttle services! Other sites to check: expedia.com hotwire.com orbitz.com delta.com airtran.com southwestair.com

Option #1 Driving:
We went to Florida with some friends one year on the challenge to get there and back by spending the littlest amount of money possible. We drove straight through the night to cut out the hotel cost. We packed coolers full of food and never once paid for a meal. If you do plan on stopping for the night, don't book a hotel in advance because you never know how far you'll actually want to push yourself. Grab up a discount hotel book from the nearest rest stop along your route and call ahead to verify vacancy. Plan ahead by packing a small hotel bag within easy reach, rather than take all your luggage in. Keeping things to a minimal also lowers your chances of picking up hitchhikers (aka bed bugs).

Option #2 Flying:
When making the decision to fly, we always start by checking the list of airlines flying out non-stop. Making stops or changing planes is basically not an option for us with 3 kids - it's not fun! Spirit, Delta and Airtran are some of the only airlines with non-stop flights from Detroit to Orlando, so we start by frequenting their sites (and when I say frequenting, I mean checking in daily!). Airlines can run deals and promotions at any moments notice - Spirit has been known to offer some crazy good deals, especially to "$9 Fare Club" members, which is totally worth the cost of membership if you know you will be utilizing it. Delta is a "Disney preferred" airline which means they are in direct communication with Disney and can streamline certain parts of your travel to a Disney resort, but it's not absolutely necessary to use them if staying at a Disney resort.

Be on guard, airlines are sneaky these days with all their hidden fees. Spirit wont end up being any cheaper than Delta if you end up paying out big bucks for all your checked bags and carry-on's. The key is to pack light! The general rule, even with kids, is to pack everything you think you need - then cut out at least half of it. Use the biggest bag possible and pack everything for the whole family in that one bag. Stay up-to-date on air travel policies, carry-on restrictions (liquids and gels), and what special policies apply to travel with small children and infants. Children fly free under the age of 2 if they are sitting in your lap (sometimes a baby bjorn or moby wrap makes this easier - but they may make you remove it during takeoff and landing). Strollers and infant carriers can be checked right at the entrance to the plane (for free) and will be waiting for you when you get off. If you really want to carry a car seat onto the plane (because you need it for a car ride at your destination), it has to be up to airline codes, otherwise children are not required to sit in them. Disney buses and shuttles do not have infant or children seats (and actually, they don't even allow them!). When we fly and stay at a Disney resort, we check one big bag (stuffed to the maximum weight capacity) and carry-on as little as possible. We take one small stroller for the baby, which gets checked plane side and no car seats.  

The Airport
I think the key to surviving an airport and flying experience with young children, is to go into it relaxed, prepared, carry very little and look as cute as possible! I cannot stress that last one enough. On the way to Florida this year, we had it all together. We had packed light, we were organized, we were in good moods. The kids were unbearably cute with their rolling suitcases and Disney plush dolls in hand. Every grumpy TSA official we encountered took one look at us and smiled, started talking in a warm cuddly voice and opened up a special line to smooth out our security process. On the contrary, our way home we were over-packed, flustered and grumpy. We went into the trip stressed and it continued to be a stressful experience.

When going through security, stay calm. You may feel rushed because of all the people behind you, but don't rush. Everyone is pretty understanding of the challenges small children can bring. Send your most valuable things through last so they don't end up sitting unattended for several minutes without you. Wear shoes that easily slip off (sandals!), new regulations allow children under 12 to keep theirs on. Have your liquids in a zip lock bag. Declare bottles and sippy cups - small amounts of liquid like this is allowed, but may need to be tested. Our experience has been pretty good with these things as most TSA officials would rather not be at the center of the next big media scandal involving kids and security. Identification is not needed for children, but have your ID's handy at all times and be sure to have an "infant in arms" noted on your boarding pass.

The plane ride itself can be enjoyable with a little preparation. Take books, portable DVD players, iPods, candy, etc. Be prepared with special treats to keep kids happy at all cost (you don't want to be that family)! If flying with an infant, be sure to have a bottle or pacifier handy to help their ears. Be sure to have small children use the bathroom right before boarding - airplane bathrooms can be a horrifying experience!


Where to Stay
Unless you have relatives in the area and plan on staying with them (which is obviously the cheapest option and one that we've enjoyed on numerous occasions!), you'll be looking into hotels or condo/home rental in the area. I've known many people who have gone down in large groups and rented homes in the Orlando area or condos on the beach. For the past couple years, we have thoroughly enjoyed staying at Disney's All Star Movie Resort which is part of the Disney value class of hotels. My husband has attended a youth pastors conference in Orlando for 2 years now, and what we discovered was that the All Star Movie Resort's price per night was actually cheaper than the hotels that the conference was recommending he stay at! So, our family has tagged along for the ride and enjoys time at the resort while daddy is away at the conference. Of course my grandparents have driven over from Lakeland, FL and met up with us there for a few days, and my husband's parents have flown in to join us as well!


Like any of the Disney hotels, your stay there includes the complimentary shuttle service from the airport to the hotel. This has made it possible for us to fly, without spending any money on car rental. Once at your resort, you can also hop on a Disney bus to any of the other resorts, Downtown Disney, and any of the theme parks that are owned by Disney. My husband and his parents, who have stayed at some of the most expensive Disney resorts over the years, have all been very impressed with the value resort. Prices fluctuate a little bit based on the season. By going late February or early March we have paid as little as $70 a night and no more than $90. I have seen the price go as high as $130 during peak season. By checking in on the same day as my grandparents, we were able to get a Florida residents rate (just by having them with us) that dropped our price down considerably.


Keep an eye on Disney's site for Special Offers on hotels and dates that are less expensive. Disney does some very nice package deals that include meals, tickets, hotel stay, etc. We have never used these deals because we figured we could still spend less by coming up with our own meals vs. using their meal plan for 3 meals a day. Watch their promotions, however, because there have been times they've advertised adding on free meal plans, etc. to your hotel reservation.


 Why We Like Disney's All Star Movies Resort
  • Free transportation to and from airport, to and from parks
  • Giant Toy Story figures, 101 Dalmations, Fantasia, etc. the kids love the whole place!
  • You get the same Disney perks and service as you would at a more pricy Disney resort
  • Large pool with Mickey fountain and small kiddy pool with splash pad (I'm not sure that other value resorts have this area for small children). There are plenty of lounge chairs and tables with umbrella near by - we sat here many days while the kids swam, and ate our peanut butter and jelly sandwiches there for lunch :)
  • Cafeteria style food court. We ate one meal a day here and were able to split 2 adult size meals or a large pizza between the 5 of us, which allowed us to spend only $20.
  • The refillable cups - which are expensive at first (around $14) but we only bought 2 and refill them endlessly for the whole family during our entire stay. This would be our coffee in the morning, pop, water and tea all day long. They can be used at any of the Disney resorts (but not the theme parks unfortunately), so when we visited Animal Kingdom Lodge one night for dinner, we took the cups! We even brought ours back the following year (shhhh) and used them again. Yes, we actually asked ahead of time, and the kind of answer we get from many Disney employees is something like "this is what I am supposed to tell you" and then "you didn't hear this from me, but go ahead and do it." Are we cheap or what?
  • Up until now, you could pay $10 a day to get a fridge in your room (which allowed us to keep milk, yogurt, meat, cheese, etc. for meals) or request a "medical fridge" which got you one for free. While we were there this past time, we noticed they were installing permanent fridges in many rooms, which made us think they would now be included?
  • The whole place is so much fun, our kids would have been content to just stay there and do other free things in the area without paying money to actually go into the parks. You get the real feel of Disney World just by staying there.
  • The staff is very friendly and accommodating - they will do everything in their power to give you an enjoyable stay.
  • There are connecting rooms available - but cannot be reserved ahead of time or guaranteed. We stayed one night in separate rooms from my grandparents and when a connecting one came available, were moved over to it. It was worth it! Overall, the staff just wanted to do what we wanted and made the process very smooth.
  • There is a decent size arcade/game room and good size Disney store on the grounds. 
  • The rooms are nothing special. They are fairly small with two queen beds. But the decor is cute, they are kept very clean and the housekeeping service is very nice! If the housekeepers are not too overbooked for the day and have extra time to spare, they do a fabulous job of sprucing up your room Disney style. One lady took all the toys in the room, including my daughters princess dress, to create a window display that greeted us when we returned! There are always cute little animals or Mickeys formed out of the towels, which the kids love.
  • Pack and Plays are provided, so that is one less thing to have to bring with you!
  • Disney tickets can be purchased right at the front desk and added right onto your room key.
  • Each park has a day of the week that offers "extra magic hours" for those staying at a Disney resort. This could add an extra hour onto the beginning or end of your day in the park.
  • On certain nights, Cartoons are shown on a big screen down by the pool.
  • They have a very nice playground with sand, right next to the kids pool.
  • They have a very nice laundry facility which makes packing light all that easier. This is located right next to the kids pool, so I had laundry running while still keeping an eye on the kids. 
Other Things to Note...
  • I am not totally clear on how many they will allow in a room there at the All Star Movies due to fire codes. The first year we were there, we had 2 adults, a 2 year old, a 4 year old and an infant. This year, everyone was a year older but we still counted our 14 month old an infant. I am not sure what the age cut-off is where they would count the infant as a 5th person and potentially not allow it. You could possibly sneak around this by leaving the 5th person off the registration, but they have to be accounted for to get transportation to and from the resort, or to use the extra magic hours at a park. 
  • When using the Disney transportation, plan on it taking a full hour from the airport to the resort. This is the one draw back, but still a really nice perk.
  • We paid $10 extra a night (and thought it was worth it) to be guaranteed a spot in one of the 3 closest buildings to the pool and cafeteria. These three buildings include the Toy Story building, Fantasia and 101 Dalmatians. There is no map of the grounds for this resort, but you can visit googlemaps.com and look up Disney All Star Movies Resort to find maps and more pictures than Disney even has on their site.
  • There are 3 All Star Resorts: Movies, Music and Sports. All 3 are located side by side and are in walking distance of each other. You could feasibly visit the pool or arcade at the other resorts if you really wanted to - and take your refillable cup with you! 
  • For a change of pace, we hopped on the Disney shuttle and ate dinner one night in the food court over at the Animal Kingdom Lodge. We took our refillable cups there too and ate for the same price we had been paying at our resort, but got a change of scenery. The Animal Kingdom Lodge comes highly recommended by us as well (to visit for free!), but more on that in my next installment. 
One Last Tip!
  • Kids will inevitably see all kinds of things at the Disney resort and inside the theme parks that they want, and they will beg you for them. Rather than spend big bucks there, I like going prepared with our own special Disney toys, activities and clothing! Shop around ahead of time for deals. We take our own Disney toys, all the makings for a princess outfit including dress, crown, "pixy dust" and jewelry, Disney pool toys, floaties, and Mickey ears! Our kids have warn the same Mickey and Minnie hooded sweatshirts that Grandma bought them, for the past 3 trips to Disney! We still get inquiries about them while there, and we have to say - sorry, they're from Walmart in New Jersey!
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14 comments:

  1. I will be back to really check out this post. We are wanting to take our very first trip to Disney within the next year and would like to know all the ways to save money.

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  2. Great list! We love Disney and go about every 12-18 months. I'm fairly certain that age 3 is the cutoff for the smallest in the room, it's a fire code thing. :( Once you have to start paying for their admission, you have to have a 'legal' room. Thanks for sharing!

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    1. Thanks for the tip Ashli! And thanks for reading :)

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  3. Found this on Pinterest. Bu far the BEST money saving info I have found. Practical stuff. I do have one question. I love the idea of storing food in the mini fridge (I found out that they do all have one now) but I think we would be flying. Is there a place close to buy to purchase groceries or did you pack them with you? Or maybe only had them when you drove? I am hoping to go next year and am starting to save. Living in AZ growing up, I remember many Disneyland trips as a kid. I would love to take my son to Disneyland, but now that we live in PA, Disney World just makes more sense, so I am ready to try it out. Thanks again!!!

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    1. Thank you so much for the kind words! Great question. When we drove, we obviously had a car to drive to a nearby grocery store. When we've flown, my grandparents that live near by were able to bring us food. What I can tell you, is that the food court there at the resort does sell loaves of bread, milk, etc. but at a higher than normal price. I've thought many times that if my grandparents were not there, I could always try packing dry goods in a suitcase and carry a loaf of bread in my purse! I'd pack cereal, pop tarts, peanut butter and jelly, etc. You can't carry-on any liquids, so it kind of rules out a cooler full of dairy with ice, etc. I'd lower myself to purchasing milk there on the premises. Sorry I can't give you a specific answer, but I'd check google maps, trip advisor, or the Disney mom panel: http://disneyworldforum.disney.go.com/ for ideas! I hope that helps! :)

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    2. Check out the response Elena posted (down a few comments) - she mentions a couple grocery delivery services they have used! Good stuff :)

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  4. I have tried looking on hotwire.com for a hotel but I don't know the area enough. there are rooms that say they are in the lake buena Vista - downtown Disney area and also the Disney main gate area. would those happen to be on resorts with free transportation?

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    1. Great question, Anna! The only hotels that offer the free Disney transportation are Disney owned hotels. Other hotels may also offer free shuttles, but you would have to check with them directly. I think Hotwire would be a tricky site to go through, as they don't show you the names of the hotels, so you don't know what you're getting into. Expedia.com on the other hand, does offer discounted rates to Disney owned hotels. I'd check there! I hope you have success finding a great deal!!

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    2. Thanks so much for the help! I will have to check Expedia. After I asked I just googled hotels with free disney transportation and it took me to some pretty good deals with some pretty cool activities that they offer. One of the best ones was Holiday Inn Resort. It said it was a "neighboring resort" and had free transportation and if you booked 2 nights you get a third one free for the same trip. I think I almost have my husband convinced thanks to your post! :)

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  5. I was just wondering were you able to account for the toll cost before your family left on the road trip down to Florida? My dad and I are currently attempting to plan everything out now and we're not entirely sure how to do so. Thank you!

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  6. Wonderful hints! The fridges are now standard in every Disney Resort room. Grocery delivery is available for a small fee from a couple places. (We've used Wegoshop for the past several years and have heard great things about Gardengrocer as well. We use them to deliver cases of water, and a few perishable/ crushable items like milk, bread, fresh fruit...we pack PB & J, small cereal boxes, canned snacks, candy, etc in our checked bags - Southwest offers 2 checked bags for free per ticketed passenger, and participate as a preferred airline, which means you can curbside check in your bags AT YOUR RESORT before getting on the free shuttle back to the airport) If you do get a meal plan (Even one that is FREE with a special) you now get a refillable resort mug for every person on the plan. If you stay at the All Star resorts, you can use any other All Star pool! This is not true for any other resort except for Port Orleans. Riverside and French Quarter allow "pool hopping", POR is a moderate resort that sleeps 5 (or 6 if one is a child under the age of 3). Speaking of ages...Any child under 3 at arrival is considered an "Infant" and is not charged. A child that is 3-9 on the first day of vacation is priced as a child and any child 10 and over is considered an adult. Yes, this does mean that you can celebrate a birthday in WDW, but still be charged the cheaper fees the entire trip! FInally, working with a Disney Vacation Specialist is always a great idea, and if you book directly through them, there should be no charge for their services! A good specialist will watch your dates for the best deal, alert you to deadlines, offer suggestions on activities that are sometimes free, but most people don't even know about (FREE outdoor movies, fireworks on the beach, archery lessons, or campfire smores, anyone?) and can even work on time saving itineraries so you are not standing in long lines in the heat! Anyway, its so nice to read an article about everyday, practical advice that doesn't break any moral laws LOL! Great job!!

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    1. This is great advice! Thank you! I will be directing others to the services you have mentioned :)

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    2. Thanks, Elena. I will for sure have to remember the grocery delivery service!

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